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whoops, not this week

torridjoe — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 05:31:46 GMT

It begins next week, actually...

Energy Efficient Lighting Is Good!

skillgore — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:10:50 GMT

It's nice seeing the stimulus money being used properly for good. Energy efficient fixtures and lamps can make a significant difference. I hope this will apply to new construction also.

Another Event happening 1/30/10

Socialism — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:49:27 GMT

You are invited to a:

Birthday Bash and Fundraiser for Portland Freedom Socialist Party Organizer

Come help us celebrate Jordana Sardo's 50th birthday at a Toast and Fundraiser dedicated to her 20 years of activism, quest for social justice and leadership in Portland's Freedom Socialist Party. Celebration and toasts will be held

Saturday, January 30, 2010 @ 7pm

Bread and Roses Center
819 N. Killingsworth St., Portland
(1/2 block west of N. Albina; Tri-Met bus lines #72 and #4)

Free door, all are welcome!!

Sponsor: Freedom Socialist Party. For more information call 503-240-4462 or email fsp@igc.org, or visit www.socialism.com.

Democratic Overton

torridjoe — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 04:01:06 GMT

I feel like the "center" of this HCR debate keeps moving further right, and it's being done by Democrats. The idea that the current bill is better than nothing is an open question, particularly in the long term. But that question seems now to be entirely dismissed in the eyes of people like Lanny Davis and Paul Begala and even Krugman. So there's an unfair construct already that is pressuring from the right on House progressives.

But beyond whether Blumenauer is ultimately right or not in his evaluation of the bill in their chamber, is the wisdom of drawing a line, and then--like progressives from seemingly time immemorial--backtracking and erasing the line. With every iteration, the impetus to count on progressives as willing to take whatever, only intensifies. So is Earl going to be a principled purist, or a welshing pragmatist? Tough choice, one he and so many others have created for themselves. I have to stand with Jane on this one.

These are great!

torridjoe — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:34:58 GMT

Keep em coming...

Kari's so right, he gets to say it twice.

nothstine — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 03:39:33 GMT

You're right--it's not a bug, it's a feature. It is, as I wrote, perfectly within the law; it's only a question of whether the state is spending [or giving up] three dollars in revenue to direct two dollars toward green energy. To say nothing of whether we want that third dollar to leave the state.

Obviously, I think that--to be generous--the law needs tweaking, but in any case, "loophole" wasn't the right word.

loophole?

karichisholm — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:04:34 GMT

The BETC program has many problems, but describing that Wal-Mart thing as a "loophole" isn't quite right. A loophole is usually an unintended element that someone discovers and takes advantage of, against the wishes of the program's creators.

The Wal-Mart thing isn't a loophole because that's EXACTLY how the program was designed. The whole point of the BETC program is to allow companies to do renewable energy products and take advantage of tax credits that are vastly larger than they can use - so they sell them at a discount to companies that can take advantage of them.

Some folks think that's an awesome way to get more renewable energy projects done; others think it's a giant sinkhole of waste. But either way, it's not a loophole - that's the whole idea, as designed.

loophole?

karichisholm — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:04:33 GMT

so sorry

torridjoe — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:49:58 GMT

Sorry to hear of a personal loss, Andrew. But that's the reality of course--every one of them is personal for SOMEBODY.

As a generally anti-war progressive, I think it's important to remember that even though our soldiers volunteer for combat now, they are still often the helpless pawns in our unfortunate conflicts. And whatever their motives, whatever the circumstances, their efforts are to be remembered, honored and commended.